oldcloser
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ’€
Here's a spin so you don't internalize it. Familiar with The Peter Principle? It says that eventually, in organizational structure, employees ascend to a position in which they are completely incompetent. Sound familiar?
In the "nail it and scale it" world of tech sales, this is front and center. These monkeys making hiring decisions generally have little experience in leadership. And when they were selling, the industry was on fire. It's not hard to sell what everyone thinks they need to have.
So, keep the grind up. You'll find a hole you fit in. There are just fewer of them.
CuriousFox
WR Officer
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๐ŸฆŠ
Heh...
countingmyinterest
Politicker
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Account Executive
It could be worse out there! I've been getting final round interviews and mostly been beaten on experience mostly. I have about 4-6 YoE depending if you count entrepreneurship, but have been losing to people with 10+.
oldcloser
Arsonist
0
๐Ÿ’€
I think your head is in the right place. No way to control that
DataCorrupter
Politicker
1
Account Executive
"These monkeys making hiring decisions generally have little experience in leadership. And when they were selling, the industry was on fire. It's not hard to sell what everyone thinks they need to have."

This deserves more upvotes than anyone can give it.
Pachacuti
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They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
$50/hr to make cold calls?! Nice.
CuriousFox
WR Officer
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๐ŸฆŠ
Hell yeah sign me up
BmajoR
Arsonist
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Account Executive
That's tough. Glad you're staying busy in other ways though.
Are you still waiting on final confirmation one way or the other with those final interviews, or have they all been duds?
countingmyinterest
Politicker
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Account Executive
Still waiting on ine final one.
jefe
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ
It's definitely tough out there, but you've been doing a few things right to make it to 6 final rounds. You'll get across the goal line soon.
Diablo
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Sr. AE
Damn, sorry to hear that. Were you not considered or the decision isn't made yet. How long since you're done with the interviews.
Something good will knock your door soon, in the meantime keep the cash flow on.
Sunbunny31
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Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
Iโ€™d like to provide words of support as well.

6 final rounds is better than many, which leads me to believe itโ€™s just a matter of time before the right thing comes along.
oldcloser
Arsonist
1
๐Ÿ’€
I'd have to go back many moons to find 6 final rounds. That is something.
countingmyinterest
Politicker
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Account Executive
I agree too!
Keep pushing. I've been hitting up my personal network a lot via twitter & LI & text.
Sunbunny31
Politicker
0
Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
Honestly, that role is out there. You're so close!
Kosta_Konfucius
Politicker
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Sales Rep
Really sorry to hear that, itโ€™s definitely way more competitive. Itโ€™s a stressful situation so take care of yourself
Space_Ghost20
Valued Contributor
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Account Executive
I've not managed to secure even a phone screen since early April. I'm employed, but not in a good spot. You're right, it is brutal.
countingmyinterest
Politicker
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Account Executive
Are you not applying to enough positions perhaps?
Space_Ghost20
Valued Contributor
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Account Executive
I apply to 7-10 a week. I'd apply to more but there just isn't much that's either in my area or remote.
countingmyinterest
Politicker
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Account Executive
I actually hired a virtual assistant to apply to jobs on my behalf Hahahha. Ended up applying to 400+ jobs and have got quite a few interviews that way
Justatitle
Big Shot
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Account Executive
Your luck will change, I have felt like this more than once in my career and it always has worked up. Head up!
FinanceEngineer
Politicker
2
Sr Director, sales and partnerships
It is tough out there. A lot of senior positions are open. You just have to compete with everyone. There is also a lot of people who are bad in sales. It happens.
SaaSyBee
Politicker
1
Founder
I'm so sorry to hear that. Glad you're finding gigs in the meantime.
HVACexpert
Politicker
1
sales engineer
Lots of people still hiring in HVAC sales or otherwise
Gasty
Notable Contributor
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War Room Community Manager
Don't let go of those part-time SDR gigs, @countingmyinterest. You might continue doing them even once you find your full-time role.
LambyCorn
Arsonist
0
A mfkn E
$40-$50 an hour for SDR gigs??? Ho Lee Sheet
dorsiacro
Politicker
0
Account Executive
Definitely tough out there rn... keep your head up and keep crushing those Upwork gigs in the meantime!
0
Account Executive
Bad enough: job market is brutal AF

Worse: whatever jobs there are, the OTE has shrunk from juicy grapes to shriveled raisins for the same quotaโšฐ๏ธโšฐ๏ธโšฐ๏ธ

salespal
Good Citizen
0
Account Executive
a six interview hiring process is insane! How is that productive for anyone
countingmyinterest
Politicker
0
Account Executive
No, 6 interviews that were in final round stages
salespal
Good Citizen
0
Account Executive
my apologies! You are getting all the way to the end! One will fall in your favor!
slaydie
Big Shot
0
Account Executive
You're getting close! Keep it up, the hard work will pay off
RandyMoss
Politicker
0
Account Executive
I got whacked last week and I can't even get phone screens after applying. 8 YoE, over 5 of which is SaaS and nobody wants to talk to me. I've never seen anything like it.
pirate
Big Shot
0
๐Ÿฆœโ˜ ๏ธ Account Executive
Good luck out there
0
Account Executive
I'm experiencing the same thing man. Multiple final rounds and then this long rejection letter from HR about how tough it was to not select me. It's discouraging for sure because my current position is an AEs worst nightmare. I had no idea what I was getting myself into now I just feel stuck. I hope you get good news soon though. Keep your head up, you're not alone.
SPT
Valued Contributor
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Director, Channel Sales & Partner Alliances
@countingmyinterest I feel ya. I'm 9 months unemployed. Hey...any chance you might share how one can get an Upwork SDR gig? I have 10+ years of being an Enterprise SDR / inside sales person (before I went into SaaS partner alliances)...I would work for $30/hour. I'm on Upwork...but not finding anything.
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