Not trying to be "one of the guys" has massively improved my sales career and quality of life.

I still think about it from time to time but I know how the pressure is on in the sales world to be "one of the guys". Watch football, drink a lot, play golf, and practically be a preppy frat guy in the corporate world. I used to worry that if I was not "one of the guys", it would hurt me and in some situations, perhaps it has.


Then I started owning up to some of my hobbies that would get shunned by the preppy sales crowd such as doing Brazilian Ju Jitsu and practicing MMA after work. Watching less popular sports like Formula 1 and UFC as opposed to obsessing over the NFL. Going to comedy shows and actually taking acting classes on the side as opposed to guzzling down a bunch of beers on weekends and playing golf.


I also do model photography with one of my friends who is trying to launch his business in that and actually seeing momentum, spend a lot of my weekends on that and have met a lot of interesting people in it.


I feel like proactively distancing myself from the Polo and Khaki Wearing Bro has turned my sales career and quality of life around. It is like I started out in sales wanting to be accepted by them and now the last thing I want is to be a part of that crowd. Like I do not even care if I lose a job offer or get fired because I am not "one of the guys" and I feel so at peace.


If I had to share one piece of wisdom I have learned, it is, don't try to be one of the guys or just someone you are not for the sake of fitting into a sales culture or landing that job offer.


Since making this shift, I have seen the following happen:


  1. Getting job offers from 3 dream companies I wanted to work for as an AE but then turning them down since the base was trash
  2. Having prospects and C-Levels tell me there is something "different" about me and wanting to talk more to me as a result of that (closed 4 deals from it)
  3. More mental peace
  4. Better life outside of work
  5. Toxic work environments do not get to me like they used to
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braintank
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Enterprise Account Executive
Happy you're happy, but remember, you might me "one of those guys" to someone else. Judge not!
CuriousFox
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CuriousFox
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You do you boo. I'm happy with college football 😉
RandyLahey
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THE SHOW GOES ON
Justatitle
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I have no time to hang out with the guys/gals. 3 kids and I need to make $$$ the time for friends ended long ago
waterjugsales
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Account Executive @ Funemployed
Whatever floats your boat and puts you into the best position to succeed, we’re here for it. Outcome independence sets one free.
GDO
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BDM
be your self it's the best version you can be. BTW I'm basically a preppy frat guy when it comes to hobbies and intrests. However, less cocky and smug.

Also being into NFL is still quite niche in the EU. So here it would be soccer.
Fenderbaum
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Retired Choirboy🪕
Stay true to yourself!
Sunbunny31
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People who are comfortable with themselves attract others. Good for you for being yourself.
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Retired Sales Professional
That sound great, you keep doing what makes you feel good.
LambyCorn
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A mfkn E
wait so, you have done better avoiding being the legitimate corporate bro?
BigShrimpin
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@BitcoinAddict what context are you "owning up to these hobbies in" like are you making small talk at the start of a call with prospects and asking if they saw Aspinal nuke the russian last weekend or do you mean moreso with coworkers? I've mostly been in the younger crowd so they usually find mma stuff cool and ask if I think I could beat other people around the office in a fight (trick question never answer lol)
I've always been a bit envious that my boss can just jump on with anyone who has a helmet in their background and immediately talk the intricacies of their local universities football team but never enough to watch it myself.
All this said though I think most people are more multifaceted than we like to give them credit for.
goldengophers21
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Haha Football goes in one ear, out the other for me. I have no idea how the hell those guys remember all of that, but it is extremely impressive.
goldengophers21
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It sounds like you were in a pretty nasty environment. I am happy that you were able to grow as a person as well as find some hobbies that are giving you confidence.
Food for thought: I enjoy MMA, studying history and philosophy, and making vizzes with data sets for fun. But I also happen to also be a frat bro who loves drinking beer on the golf course... and maybe I am a little too excited to blow some $$$ on some stupid parlays.
People have a lot of nuance. Generalizations like that could have you miss out on some pretty cool relationships and experiences. Happy holidays if you celebrate :)
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I get you. Glad you’re being yourself.

I don’t drink which I know has hurt me socially a few times. But in the long run has benefited me greatly.

So be yourself and be happy.
ComTruise
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Sales Specialist
Do you boo boo, I love to hear it!
Kosta_Konfucius
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Being yourself is always the right call, rather than faking to be someone else
SportsSalesGuy
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This is tremendous
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lonewolf!!
Beans
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Let your work speak for you.
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As a sales professional, did you think through and design your career path, or were you thrown in and now you're just winging it?

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Has massive growth ever led to mental breakdown? I have been hustling since 17 years old chasing to strive for success doing odd jobs and unintentionally ended up with Edtech K12 Sales as my first official sales job - A toxic culture with no employee respect eventually me to switch after 18 months. Since reps in Edtech are highly valued, had no option but to continue in Edtech sales. This time it was higher education segment, things looked good in the first few month but slowly it started adapting methodologies like the old Edtech since the management was changed. I decided to move out and switch to B2B SaaS. After 13 months of learning & success, my aspirations weren’t matching with the growth vision shared by my manager and ended up being desperate to switch. Got to a AM-Inside Sales role with a 50% hike. Guess what? It led to my mental break down since the culture is pathetic. In entire journey, all challenges never affected my performance but l am losing the spark to glow and hustle eventually. While I plan to switch, a token of guilt is still alive. The experiences have made me far better and strong as a BDR but blank about the next steps in my career. Thanks for reading. Do share your thoughts.

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What's the best way to get an SDR position. I have one year sales experience. I want to learn and keep growing. Anything helps:)

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