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Will Allred

is the new Brandon from Seamless or any of the other dozen shock-value creators. Talks shit about sales reps and doesn't offer solutions.

I will never use or pay for Lavendar. Doesn't matter if it's good, the CEO ruined the brand.
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RandyLahey
Politicker
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Account Executive
He’s a hunk of a shit. It’s all become just a boring clickbait game, and Linkedin has devolved right down that path.
HVACexpert
Politicker
6
sales engineer
This stuff on top of all the political posts…. It’s almost Facebook at this point
lowhangersalesbanger
Executive
3
Director of Sales
GORE WON !!!! or whatever
CuriousFox
WR Officer
1
🦊
Sad, but true
oldcloser
Arsonist
5
💀
Boost your cold email reply rate by 83% with one key on your keyboard!Yeah, fukkim
Revenue_Rambo
Politicker
5
Director, Revenue Enablement
Yeah that one key is delete… as in delete the cold emails they send you.
AnchorPoint
Politicker
1
Business Coach
"that one key is delete"... gold.
Kosta_Konfucius
Politicker
3
Sales Rep
I like Will's sales memes more than the advice, every once in awhile there is a good post, but some are just click bait
pirate
Big Shot
2
🦜☠️ Account Executive
Was this the same guy that used bots on LinkedIn? Don't like him.
SaaSsy
Politicker
2
AE
Yes he’s annoying AF!
fidelcashflow
Catalyst
2
Account Executive
The product is not worth paying for. I trialed it and did not miss it one bit when it expired. The UI is also garbage
Pachacuti
Politicker
1
They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
Good to know. Thanks for sharing.
Justatitle
Big Shot
1
Account Executive
The hubris is unreal
Marcus
Good Citizen
1
Enterprise Account Executive
Is your problem more with the delivery or the message/content?

I'm new to sales... but the advice seems fundamentally correct.

E.g., less spam, more personalization, cut the fluff, have an observation

What might I be missing?
poweredbycaffeine
WR Lieutenant
1
☕️
It is the historical archive of posts exhibiting this behavior.
CRAG112
Valued Contributor
1
Account Executive
The product is good for shortening your messages without spending the time to do so manually.

But yes, I have noticed a change from marketing their product to bashing the people who might actually use it. They are trying to make a point, but just being dicks.

Feel free to bash back on LI.
thesearentleads
Member
1
Account Executive
Will is a marketing guy not a sales guy. Would take his sales process rants with a grain of salt
LambyCorn
Arsonist
1
A mfkn E
I used Lavender before they blew up, was a fan. They secured 8 figures, got turned off by their online presence. But I am sure they have 4x their customers because of their online presence so hey, what gives right?
braintank
Politicker
0
Enterprise Account Executive
Example?
poweredbycaffeine
WR Lieutenant
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https://www.linkedin.com/posts/williamallred_i-left-a-zoom-call-early-today-because-a-activity-7087492426226925568-VkAk?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios

While he gives “tips” it’s not useful beyond what you learn through…discovery. Aka what he didn’t want the rep to do.
oldcloser
Arsonist
1
💀
Bloated self-inflating hot take. The irony for me is that this guy claims to enjoy helping salespeople.
Sunbunny31
Politicker
3
Sr Sales Executive 🐰
“Helping”. 🙄
HVACexpert
Politicker
2
sales engineer
Question since I’m not as familiar with this process, in tech sales before you hop on a meeting with someone I would assume some research is done on the company and person(s) you’re meeting with to better prepare you for the discovery phase ? Also is there a reason why you wouldn’t be able to demo at that first meeting?
oldcloser
Arsonist
3
💀
Assumption correct, yes. Anyone shows up without at least a handful of answers has failed. The research drives the disco question. A demo on first call is more typical with a more simple solution. The simpler the solution, the shorter the sales cycle.

I don’t think he was wrong. But he could have framed the whole thing in a much more sales friendly way. He’s a prick.
HVACexpert
Politicker
2
sales engineer
I agree there, blasting a sales call on linkedIn for clicks and clout is pure d-bag.
SaaSyBee
Politicker
5
Founder
Woof. Just... he's the founder of a company that serves sellers. How does he think that punching down on someone who's clearly a newbie seller is going to look like anything other than gross and cruel?
poweredbycaffeine
WR Lieutenant
4
☕️
Exactly! Don’t attack an early-career rep. Attack their manager and enablement team, sure, but empathize and help the under seasoned rep rather than throw your hands up and quit.
TheCashCow
Valued Contributor
5
Sr. Account Executive
He def sounds like one- I do agree that it's essential to find a balance between providing valuable insights and maintaining a positive and respectful tone in interactions. Which he does not seem to have.
FinanceEngineer
Politicker
0
Sr Director, sales and partnerships
I don’t care if the CEO ruins the brand honestly. If the product creates lift compared to others, why not? Gotta make that money.
Rallier
Politicker
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SDR Manager and Consultant
Interestingly enough I disagree with you. I don't like a lot of LinkedIn influencers, but 99% of Will's posts are backed up by data. He's provided a large number of actionable frameworks and examples.

Lavender is a pretty helpful tool.
The circlejerk of hating LinkedIn is so over the top sometimes lol.
poweredbycaffeine
WR Lieutenant
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You’re welcome to form your own circle. Any post that shit talks sales reps by the CEO of a company that serves sales reps is simply unacceptable.

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