Best Commission plan for AE's handling Net New + Renewals?

Hi All,


Strategic AE here in the MarTech SaaS space. I have an opportunity to help influence our comp plan as it is pretty outdated since the company was in early bootstrap mode.


  • Our AE's from mid-market to strategic all handle net new + renewals
  • We are paid 50/50 OTE, variable comp based on hitting quota with a shitty 40% of goal cliff to make first commission payment and ramp starting at paying 25% of variable comp for hitting 40% of goal. Then paid 125% until break even at 100% of the goal and exceeding goal.
  • We just launched a CSM team but they will not handle any commercials
  • Our Quota is based on Net New pipeline + potential renewals
  • For example, my quota was raised from $1.8 M to $3.1 M based on solid pipeline I've built and a couple renewals coming off 3-year deals that should equate to about $1M

The issue our team is running into is that major increases in quota come with ZERO increase in compensation. So, if you have a renewal-heavy year, you have a major quota to hit and if anything goes wrong in the renewals it also impacts the commission you would make on Net NEW sales that have long sales cycles.


I'd love to hear some recommendations, I don't think hiring dedicated renewal managers or handing them off to CSM would be accepted in the near term future.


Thanks!

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Pachacuti
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They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
I have never been a fan of having to sell X% before getting paid a commission. And then its further complicated with the odd %'s till you hit 100% of quota.
If you really have input, then advocate for simplicity. X% for every sale. Then have accelerators for exceeding quota. It should be ~1 page in length. Any longer usually means the company is trying to screw you.
DungeonsNDemos
Big Shot
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Rolling 20's all day
Yeah I'm in this boat with you. having to hit 40% of quota to be paid out anything is just super demoralizing as a rep.
Sunbunny31
Politicker
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Sr Sales Executive 🐰
Absolutely. It's also a sign of a company that will nickle and dime you OR doesn't have the liquidity to survive. Neither of those are good signs.
SaaS_Dude_NYC
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Strategic Account Executive
frustrating, what percentage of variable do you get paid out at 40% though?
Sunbunny31
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Sr Sales Executive 🐰
Speaking for myself, I don't have anything but net new, but for every sale, it's 12%. Over 100%, I go into accelerators.
Nothing weird or contorted.
SaaS_Dude_NYC
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Strategic Account Executive
Thanks @Sunbunny31
Is your number solely MRR/ARR or do your bookings also include professional services?
Sunbunny31
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Sr Sales Executive 🐰
No professional services, only ARR. So while we need services, I do not get paid on them. It's kind of the only flaw in the plan, but I can live with it. It means I don't carry PSS quota, and so I can leverage partners without a second thought.
ARW
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VP of Sales
What about a single number based on ARR retention and growth? Eg: you start the year with $1m ARR, you have a target for the year to get to $2m in ARR Nett of Churn. This way you have a single number of ARR $2m and you need to balance your approach to getting there. Either sell $1.5m of New Logo/Expansion if you expect $500k of churn or focus on 90%+ retention and aim for ~$1.1m in New Logo/Expansion. I also agree with the others Ramped Comp Plans suck but I suspect they are likely to stay so try to get the on-ramp lowered from 40% down to as close to 1% as possible. Ultimately it’s in your employers best interests to have the sales team highly incentivised with a simple to administer Comp Plan. Good luck, let us know how you go!
TennisandSales
Politicker
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Head Of Sales
ok so idk the easiest way to explain this so sorry if this is long and its SIMILAR to what you have :

looking at this from Total Revenue may help.
So you look at your whole book of business and lets say its worth $1MM.
You can then give a quota of $1.5MM (idk the right number here)

So that means you only need to close $500K that year. AND renew 100% of your accounts.

Lose a customer? now you need to close more new business or upsell someone else.
New business is not commissioned based on a specific % but what % of your quota it hit. (close a $100K deal and your quota was $500K, you commission is 1/5th of your OTE (what ever that is for you)

what this does, is put almost equal benefit on renewals and new business.

At the end of year they look at the your book of business and compare it to what it was at the start.

there is alot more to dive into im sure but this could be a way to go,
SaaS_Dude_NYC
Contributor
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Strategic Account Executive
Makes sense! thanks we are working towards that which is pretty similar. Now we are just working on our rediculous cliff and decelerator
CuriousFox
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poweredbycaffeine
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Their last sentence is what is going to murder their top line growth. Comp plans won’t change that.
Justatitle
Big Shot
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Account Executive
Are they open to separating the quotas so that it isn't all one large number? I guess if they do that they'd also have to go reconsdier comp on them... either way they're saving by not hiring and you should lobby for $$$ on that basis alone.
nomdeguerre
Executive
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Account executive
Any comp plan that is not super simple, easy to understand and pay on all $ sold, only has one purpose - screw over sales people
GDO
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BDM
We had a total revenue target. So if you lost a renewal you needed to make it up with new logo's. Ive also seen a full split between the 2
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