Ok so late in 2021 I was looking for a new job and was enticed to join a series B org as an Enterprise rep. First time sales leader building out his new team, basically lied aggressively to me to get me in the door. (In short he told me we had leads and needed an Enterprise rep to manage complex sales cycles, and I'd be doing little to no prospecting). Now I have no problem hitting the phones, however with this specific product, there was very little you could do to generate demand via an outbound phone call. Thus everything failed, and after I publicly disagreed with our GTM message and motion at QBR, I was let go a week later.
Fast forward 3 months. I quickly found a new job and was hired by the COO as an Enterprise AE. (This place was mostly cold calling - but they were upfront with it so it was fine by me). Thought things were going well until they bring on a new VP to cover my region. Turns out he was tight with my last manager. Sure enough 2-3 weeks in he starts acting weird around me, 2 weeks after that I get pipd, and 30 days later - boom fired again.
I can't prove it, but cant think of any other reason to get let go so quickly into a role, when I was having the same level of success as others.
Has this ever happened to someone else? Talk about your network catching up with you. Moral of the story, disconnect with people on LinkedIn that you had negative relationships with.
This seems like the beginning of the end.
Publicly questioning leadership, methods, processes, etc. In front of the entire company... as a "new" rep... Disaster my friend.
Without any real power, publicly questioning company messaging, policies, protocols, etc is a losing strategy 99.7% of the time (trust me, I ran the numbers)
Do you think this had ANY impact on the decision to let you go?
Side note - the whole Enterprise team and motion were new. That being said I would have fired me too from Job 1.
But job 2 I was good soldier, saying yes and busting my ass. Never criticized or anything.
Sounds like you made manager #1 really really salty - but if he even said anything to your current manager, if that manager was worth his salt, his response could have been "interesting that you got that out of FIIMP. He's been hitting his targets here." Rather than a cold shoulder and then PIP-bye.
It could also be coincidence...
Regardless, sorry it happened.
Reason I bring this up is..... I was that guy. I knew it all and I would tell anyone that would listen that they were wrong and I was right.
Point being,
1.) Never aggressively question or go against leadership in a public setting. 1-on-1 or bust. Once you scorn a manager/superior/slavemaster publicly, that event will always be in the back of their mind as a reason to scorn you if they are in such a position. Plus, they have all the leverage and power, so unless you are ready to lose your job, tread lightly.
2.) Like life, your interactions on the job will have ripple effects throughout your career that are very likely to follow wherever you go, good or bad. (See point #1)
We are not the same.
Lesson learned