Like..... just put this information in your job description!
Sorry sir, but since you are close enough to an office, it would be mandatory to go XXX times a week.
Like WTF!?
Interviewed for a remote role, but it's hybrid if you are close
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CuriousFox
WR Officer
8
๐ฆ
Good ole bait and switch.
Sunbunny31
Politicker
5
Sr Sales Executive ๐ฐ
Yeah, that's a no from me. How aggravating.
RandyLahey
Politicker
3
Account Manager
That's a no from me too dawg
SaaSguy
Tycoon
4
Account Executive
Typical bait and switch recruiters/companies are doing now. Its a shame.
Kosta_Konfucius
Politicker
3
Sales Rep
I am moving then
CRAG112
Valued Contributor
1
Account Executive
Lol, exactly.
oldcloser
Arsonist
3
๐
garbage. Sorry dude.
CPTAmerica
Opinionated
3
President/CRO
Absurd. They probably also say โfantastic company culture. We work hard and play hardโ
FoodForSales
Politicker
3
AE
I dont see a problem with going into an office a couple times per week personally. Offices aren't the most efficient places to work all the time, but they serve a purpose.
CRAG112
Valued Contributor
1
Account Executive
Yeah. They are a great place to hide the bodies inside the walls. Or lose your soul in a cubicle where Debby won't shut the F up next door.
RandyLahey
Politicker
3
Account Manager
Yeah this is such a snake move...GREAT way to establish trust your candidates.
BmajoR
Arsonist
3
Account Executive
Run forest
pirate
Big Shot
2
๐ฆโ ๏ธ Account Executive
That's just weird and unfair. How far of a commute would it be?
CRAG112
Valued Contributor
2
Account Executive
It would end up being closer to an hour and a half a day at least due to traffic. Especially end of day.
Then of course you have to factor in all the extra time to wake up and be ready just to leave and not be late.
F that.
I could be sipping coffee and building a prospect list at 6AM, calling everybody, and then do other shit.
Then of course you have to factor in all the extra time to wake up and be ready just to leave and not be late.
F that.
I could be sipping coffee and building a prospect list at 6AM, calling everybody, and then do other shit.
Sunbunny31
Politicker
1
Sr Sales Executive ๐ฐ
You've just explained the entire beauty of WFH.
pirate
Big Shot
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๐ฆโ ๏ธ Account Executive
Yeah f that. That's not fair.
I'm WFH. Previous role was a hybrid role like that and hell took me two days to recover from commuting to office twice a week. Usually an hour journey... Was anywhere between 1.5 -2 per direction thanks to traffic. No flexibility from them either to 1h early or 1h late.
I'm WFH. Previous role was a hybrid role like that and hell took me two days to recover from commuting to office twice a week. Usually an hour journey... Was anywhere between 1.5 -2 per direction thanks to traffic. No flexibility from them either to 1h early or 1h late.
Sunbunny31
Politicker
1
Sr Sales Executive ๐ฐ
Did this a bit when my in-town company got acquired and new (large) tech company "moved" us to their offices in SF. Over an hour on a good day. Got the approval to go hybrid almost immediately and went fully remote a couple of years later, and never looked back. That commute was a killer, what with getting ready to go in, etc.
SoccerandSales
Big Shot
2
Account Executive
I mean would be cool to have the option, but mandatory? SEE YA
CRAG112
Valued Contributor
2
Account Executive
That's exactly what the recruiter said. It was even worse that it wasn't stated at the start of the call, but at the end.
She told me it would be mandatory.
Meanwhile top performers, plenty of others don't live near an office and they have worked remote for a few years.
Why would I want to be punished?
She told me it would be mandatory.
Meanwhile top performers, plenty of others don't live near an office and they have worked remote for a few years.
Why would I want to be punished?
Diablo
Politicker
2
Sr. AE
Thatโs nuts I ๐ฏ agree. This should have been clarified so that everyoneโs time would have been wisely spent.
Maximas
Tycoon
1
Senior Sales Executive
My reply back will be like:
"Sorry sir, but since that wasn't clear enough on the job description when I applied, I'll have to rescind your offer unless this condition is removed which I didn't agree to".
"Sorry sir, but since that wasn't clear enough on the job description when I applied, I'll have to rescind your offer unless this condition is removed which I didn't agree to".
Pachacuti
Politicker
1
They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
I wouldnโt mind having an office near enough to visit every now and then, but not daily. That would make me want to travel weekly.
CRAG112
Valued Contributor
1
Account Executive
I can work with negotiating and flexing if you are literally right near me and it takes minimal effort to get to where you are here and there.
But this idea that this shit is mandatory, or a requirement, but not across the board, or only in special occasions, or only applies to people with certain titles. Like GTFOH.
But this idea that this shit is mandatory, or a requirement, but not across the board, or only in special occasions, or only applies to people with certain titles. Like GTFOH.
Justatitle
Big Shot
1
Account Executive
Hot take : I don't have the biggest issue with this.
Sunbunny31
Politicker
2
Sr Sales Executive ๐ฐ
See, I wouldn't either IF the office was nearby. I live in suburbia, but have had lighting strike twice, finding tech companies that I loved (in both cases) that were actually based in my small town. Going into the office was not an issue at all. In fact, I used to ride my bicycle to the first one, which was fantastic. With the second one, the job moved 90 minutes away each direction, and suddenly being in that office didn't seem so attractive. Plus it's expensive. Either you're paying for transit or you're paying tolls and parking. Add that to the hours worked, and it's not so wonderful.
Justatitle
Big Shot
1
Account Executive
Sorry I didnโt clarify, if it is 30 minutes by public transit or parking is provided I have no issue with in office. If itโs advertised remote then they spring the hybrid thing and youโre 1.5 hours in commute time then I have an issue
Sunbunny31
Politicker
0
Sr Sales Executive ๐ฐ
Yeah, I can definitely see that. And for some of us, that 90 minutes was each way โฆ no thank you!
Gasty
Notable Contributor
1
War Room Community Manager
we are nothing more or less than what we choose to reveal
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VP Enterprise Sales
It should be in the job description.
Besides this WFH vs Hybrid, is everything else positive about the company, your direct manager, offer and candidate experience?
If so, can you talk to the hiring manager and put together a plan for you to be 100% WFH in the future?
Most companies are Hybrid now, and especially want new employees in the office on a regular basis to accelerate learning, onboarding and culture.
If there are other things you don't like about the company, then just walk away.
Besides this WFH vs Hybrid, is everything else positive about the company, your direct manager, offer and candidate experience?
If so, can you talk to the hiring manager and put together a plan for you to be 100% WFH in the future?
Most companies are Hybrid now, and especially want new employees in the office on a regular basis to accelerate learning, onboarding and culture.
If there are other things you don't like about the company, then just walk away.
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