Is the startup way of dealing with culture collapsing?

Hello savages!


I would like to bring this subject to the table. I'm into some Brazilian sales groups over here, and we had this debate some days ago.


We already know that the way of dealing with employees in the old companies is messed up. They don't give a s**t about your life, they just expect you to hit quota no matter what (even if the project you were assigned, has an impossible deadline). Well, you know what I'm talking about.


In the startup companies generation, we started to see a whole new way of dealing with employees, a very horizontal way of leadership. Where everyone listens to everyone, leaders understand your personal problems and have empathy, this kind of thing.


I always thought that both ways of culture are very extreme because on one side you have always a top-bottom decision, where "Who can, orders, who have bills to pay, obeys." And on the other side, no one has fucking ownership of anything, you always need to step on eggs to say something, and the companies stop being driven by numbers, everything is good and everything is going to be alright...


After some layoffs here in Brazil, I started to feel that this "good culture" is collapsing, those companies that sold the idea that they care about people on their LinkedIn profiles and job description have shown that is just bullshit to appear to be a good company to work and at the end of the day, board members don't give a shit if you need to layoff a massive amount of people because you hired them without actually thinking if you should or should not do that.


Do you guys think that the startup way of dealing with culture collapsing?

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poweredbycaffeine
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It was always. Always. Always. Bullshit.
RandyLahey
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Insert 100 rocket emojis๐Ÿš€๐Ÿš€๐Ÿš€๐Ÿš€๐Ÿš€๐Ÿš€๐Ÿš€๐Ÿš€๐Ÿš€
salesherald
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And how you think is a good path for creating a culture @poweredbycaffeine?
poweredbycaffeine
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Being transparent, practicing radical candor, and doing what you say you're going to do.

Employer branding is window dressing. I want to know how the leadership team faces adversity and how they communicate change within the organization. Those are things that you'll never learn from the awesome LinkedIn page or culture deck...just be a fucking human and tell us what you actually are, not what you aspire to be.

If I'm buying a used car, it's going to have problems and gremlins...can you tell me now so I don't discover them on the highway?
salesherald
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Nice man, that's a good insight!
Kosta_Konfucius
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The second a company is not doing well, "culture" goes out the window and they just care about profit
HVACexpert
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$$ will always be the driver. Period.
salesherald
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That's it!
lowhangersalesbanger
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Yup
Sunbunny31
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Same thing happened in 2000-2002.

And the whole point of a startup is that the goal is to no longer be a startup. Successful startups transition into bigger companies with more layers between C level and ground level reps and employees, and there's naturally a culture shift.

In a down economy, the company may have to make painful decisions in order to survive - which will never enhance their "culture". At the end of the day, a business is a business. Things change and adjust.

I'd put money on another wave of startup boom and bust cycle happening, with all the culture and promise and excitement and the disappointment when it all recedes again - because I've seen this before.
CuriousFox
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Life alert in da house ๐Ÿšจ๐Ÿšจ๐Ÿšจ
Maximas
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Certainly,just BS all the time!
ChumpChange
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It's ALWAYS hugs and kisses until you're short on the rent. Then things get dicey.... quick!
lowhangersalesbanger
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Allow me to add to this discussion
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What company has the most "cultish" culture?

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Company Culture?

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How important is company culture?
22% Team outings and ๐Ÿ• are a must.
18% Work is like my family. ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿ‘งโ€๐Ÿ‘ฆ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿ‘งโ€๐Ÿ‘ฆ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿ‘งโ€๐Ÿ‘ฆ Culture is important.
60% Leave me alone to make my money. ๐Ÿ’ต
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