When the VP of Sales is an asswipe.

interviewed Friday. Role in my wheelhouse. Startup in my happy vertical with great tech. I sourced it, applied for it, called it. Got to new VP Sales through the CEO and internal referral. Textbook.ย 

Dude was 2 weeks in. Didn't really have have his story together yet. No big deal. Booked face to face. Only thing that stood out was that he drives a Corvette. Weird he'd mention that. I forget about it.

Then we meet. He brings it up again. First 5 minutes. So, I'm judging now. He's bald, maybe 5'5" - shit I wouldn't otherwise notice - and he'sspeaking in platitudes. "I'm not gonna discount." "This won't be a typical company." "I work really hard." "Email outbound is dead! Send it to my mailbox if you want my attention. I open those!"

I basically hate this guy immediately, but played along. Stayed professional. No way I'm not getting an offer, I'm thinking. Now that little putz is ghosting me.

Conclusion: he read it. Knows I didn't buy his bullshit. Therefore didn't want mine.ย 

/rant
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Filth
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Live Filthy or Die Clean
The platitude dudes suck the most. I had a new VP come in my previous copier salesman life. He started spewing his nothing while saying bullshit like "internet of things" and moving his hands like there were puppets involved. After a quick conversation where he asked me my thoughts on what he had to say, I responded with: "If you said anything of note, I didn't catch it." This was in a room of all the salespeople and he did a nervous laugh and collar grab like he was Rodney Dangerfield asking someone to take his wife. After that instance he steered very clear of me and I know for a fact my quota hitting history was the only reason I didn't get canned shortly after. I know this b/c my manager laughed in his face when he thought I wasn't a good fit for the company. In the end, the jokes on me b/c he was the one getting a $250k base in the Midwest at a copier sales company and I was the idiot making sure my words meant something and worked for a living. What an idiot I am.

Long way of saying @oldcloserfuck the guys full of hot air they can stick to their Linkedin selfie looking walk and rants about the same shit people have been saying for years. Best of luck but don't work for or with this fucknut if you can help it.
oldcloser
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ’€
This! Right fucking here!
๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚Internet of things while manipulating the air web things! Lolโ€™d. Shit- needed that.
Filth
Politicker
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Live Filthy or Die Clean
Hell yeah brother nothing like a good war room vent to people who actually get it.
CuriousFox
WR Officer
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๐ŸฆŠ
I read this in hulk hogan voice
oldcloser
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ’€
:) audio file or it didn't happen. It needs to have happened.
Fenderbaum
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Retired Choirboy๐Ÿช•
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CadenceCombat
Tycoon
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Account Executive
I feel you on this but, in my experience, a VP of Sales that isnโ€™t a douchebag in some form is a rarity. Seen all kinds but the majority had some douche vibes.
HVACexpert
Politicker
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sales engineer
I have never met a good VP who was a douche, the ones who are got there by accident.
Pachacuti
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They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
This is a good/safe place to rant.

I think I met this guy a few times over the past 10 years ;)
oldcloser
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ’€
Cool car, bro. ๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿ”ซ
Pachacuti
Politicker
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They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
for a bout 5mins till you realize you aren't an Indy driver and it does nothing to up your t-levels
oldcloser
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ’€
Why I war room โ˜๏ธ
HVACexpert
Politicker
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sales engineer
But does it make your dick bigger?
Sunbunny31
Politicker
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Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
Narrator: no.
oldcloser
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๐Ÿ’€
๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Narrator
SteveD
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Sales Director
From the
Knight Rider

corporation.
Sunbunny31
Politicker
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Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
I loved KITT!

Have a photo from when I was but a young bunny and Universal was brand newโ€ฆand there was KITT. I wanted a Trans Am soooo badly.
oldcloser
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ’€
Oh hell yes
SteveD
Member
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Sales Director
Key point is will he sign off on customer visits in the Champagne room?
oldcloser
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ’€
Hadn't thought of this. Dealbreaker for sure.
SteveD
Member
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Sales Director
ABC "always be checking" if that expense is paid
oldcloser
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ’€
Canโ€™t say Iโ€™ve actually been there. Canโ€™t say it publicly anyway.
coletrain
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Account Executive
So basically a 90s salesman who may have done well in the 90s but canโ€™t keep up with the times and thinks the times havenโ€™t changed.

Probably would be the same 2 years in, glad you saw through the BS.
punishedlad
Tycoon
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Business Development Team Lead
I know it's rough out there in the job market, but it's probably a good thing you're not going to end up working under this guy if you already can't stand him.
oldcloser
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ’€
Couldnโ€™t possibly end well. Next!
poweredbycaffeine
WR Lieutenant
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โ˜•๏ธ
You dodged a (short gauge) bullet.
oldcloser
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๐Ÿ’€
Hollow head short gauge.
Sunbunny31
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Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
You are both killing it.
CPTAmerica
Opinionated
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President/CRO
Was it even a Z06??
oldcloser
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ’€
He didnโ€™t say so. So Iโ€™m thinking not. ๐Ÿ™„
HVACexpert
Politicker
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sales engineer
Probably bought it used, probably an automatic too
oldcloser
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๐Ÿ’€
no doubt an automatic!
Sunbunny31
Politicker
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Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
Those guys are the worst.

They also have zero idea how to talk to women in business, so I always make them uncomfortable. It's fun to just stare at them politely while they ramble on and ultimately run out of things to say.
HVACexpert
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sales engineer
Heโ€™d probably open up with the corvette line and if that didnโ€™t work he wouldnโ€™t know what to do
oldcloser
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๐Ÿ’€
totally. Much dead air with this one.
Sunbunny31
Politicker
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Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
Yup, I just keep quiet and wait for them to grind to a halt. It works on noxious male colleagues at sales kickoff too.
detectivegibbles
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Sales Director
Maximas
Tycoon
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Senior Sales Executive
Nice to know that you managed to stay professional till the interview was over,good to hear also that you didn't take the offer.
Besides I understand that the show he made was worthless including his platitudes,but still many unprofessional VCs out there,apparently you weren't just lucky enough this time.
Hopefully next time it'll be better and glad that you've fleed the trap!
Justatitle
Big Shot
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Account Executive
Thank your stars that you didn't get the offer, imagine if you got the offer and took the job, you'd be a few weeks in and hate everything about the asswipe
oldcloser
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ’€
Totally. Nowhere to go with it. Little fucker just got in my craw
FoodForSales
Politicker
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AE
My immediate though was "when isn't the VP of Sales an Asswipe?"
WheelofCheese
Opinionated
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Sales Executive
5โ€™5โ€ man proud of his poor manโ€™s race car. Priceless! You dodged a bullet my friend.
oldcloser
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ’€
โœŠ appreciate the sentiment. Yep
quotascammedeverytime
Opinionated
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account executive
Corvette ๐Ÿšฉ
CRAG112
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Account Executive
Keep on keeping on???
oldcloser
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ’€
right. another day at the office
Scaleemup
Good Citizen
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VP Sales
Why brag with a piece of shit car like a corvette ๐Ÿ˜‚
oldcloser
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ’€
I mean... totally. It just fit the persona so well... No clue how they get jobs.
Armageddon
Opinionated
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Enterprise Account Executive
sounds like a clown, theres better leaders out there
pwnzor
Opinionated
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Head of Sales
This should serve as an inspiration if you ever want to be a VP of Sales. If he can do it...
oldcloser
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