Muhammad Hunain

Senior Product Designer at Bazaar Technologies

Get a sales partner

Is it a good idea to get a sales partner onboard on only-commission model?

Role Expectation: Ideally that person is responsible to generate sales. From lead generation to prospecting and closing.

Product Description:

We sell subscriptions for unlimited digital partner services for local business owner. Services mainly includes graphics design, social media and website design and development.

Product Pricing:

We have price it at USD 1000 per month.

We can give 500 USD for every sale made.

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braintank

Politicker

Enterprise Account Executive

Don't engage, @Gastybring down thy hammer 🔨

Senior Product Designer

I respect rules and policies.I am new this platform and even to sales world. I didn't knew that adding my website address will lead to any violation.

Hence I have removed it.

coletrain

Politicker

Account Executive

We summon the Great @Gasty to remove this self promotion

HVACexpert

Politicker

sales engineer

So you want to contract a person to do the dirty work for you part time and pay them commission only? Ugh, Sounds like you’re trying to have your cake and eat it too…

braintank

Politicker

Enterprise Account Executive

Agreed

If founders can't sell it themselves why could some schlub?

Senior Product Designer

I have been freelancer for good 6 years and most of my projects were from referrals. That means my retention is good and I think that because of my valuable and transparent service delivery.

With all these experiences, I think I am good at close but regular lead generation and prospecting is not my thing especially when it comes to make system around it.

Senior Product Designer

Its not like that. You are making it look dirty. That is why I mentioned word "Partner".

There are 2 parts to this business, sales and service delivery.
I am expert of service delivery and I am looking for someone who can join me to get my sales part right.

Initially, may be he/she has to do work himself but if there is potential, we can grow a sales team.

oldcloser

Arsonist

💀

It’s one thing to not read the room. It’s another to insist that the room isn’t reading you.

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CRAG112

Valued Contributor

Account Executive

You’re drinking the wrong water

poweredbycaffeine

WR Lieutenant

☕️

LMAO a 50% take rate?

CuriousFox

WR Officer

🦊

Dang I've missed a ton this week

WheelofCheese

Opinionated

Sales Executive

I think there is a hiring market for this type of role. Especially among more "green" people with little to no experience. I'm not sure if that's what you want, though.

On a side note, this post sounds a bit like an advertisement for the role-- especially since you included the company name. I'm assuming you're new to this page. Generally speaking, fishing for employees here is not allowed. Just a heads up.

braintank

Politicker

Enterprise Account Executive

It's self promotion and recruiting, double whammy

-1

Senior Product Designer

@WheelofCheeseI understand your concern. I included company name just to let people know more about product.

Question is around the perception in sales community around this. As you mentioned people with no or very little experience will be suitable for this? Does this type of model not work for experience people?

braintank

Politicker

Enterprise Account Executive

Why would an experienced person take this gig?

WheelofCheese

Opinionated

Sales Executive

You might be able to find an experienced person, but I would imagine most experienced professionals wouldn’t be interested in this model. They’ve earned their stripes. A commission only gig is a bit of an insult to most people that can easily find a role with a base salary. That was my thought.

braintank

Politicker

Enterprise Account Executive

A commission only gig at an unproven business to boot.

Senior Product Designer

This make sense. We are good at service delivery but sucks at lead generation and prospecting.

- Hiring with base salary doesn't work for us because we don't have capital investment and then there will be no room for experimentation otherwise we will be drained.

- Hiring a unexperienced person will lead to uncertainty.

What are my options then?

WheelofCheese

Opinionated

Sales Executive

Can you look at potentially taking on an investor? Give them a % of equity. That’s what I’d do. Then you’ll have the capital to invest in experienced people.

braintank

Politicker

Enterprise Account Executive

Do it yourself

Senior Product Designer

What a typical salesperson would charge per month for part-time. And how much sales can one generate for this type of niche?

WheelofCheese

Opinionated

Sales Executive

I’d do some research. Glass door is a great resource.

braintank

Politicker

Enterprise Account Executive

Are you trying to hire someone local to you or based in North America?

Senior Product Designer

Definitely not local. But not sure about the location at this moment.

CRAG112

Valued Contributor

Account Executive

Letting people know something they didn’t ask for is promotion.

WheelofCheese

Opinionated

Sales Executive

I’m going to defend this guy (this time). He admittedly didn’t know the rules of engagement prior to posting. He also removed the earlier portion of his post out of respect for the guidelines. It’s a learning curve on this site.

WheelofCheese

Opinionated

Sales Executive

Just a thought.. maybe you could find a real estate agent looking to transition out of their field. They’re already used to a commission only gig. You’d have to train them on your product, though. And perhaps allow them to keep doing their real estate gig on the side.

Pachacuti

Politicker

They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy

I see partnering in some roles like car and real estate sales where you need someone who can help capture inbound lead or just be there when you are not.

Under what you described above, I don’t see the need.

Kosta_Konfucius

Politicker

Sales Rep

Not sure how many people with experience will take a role with 0$ base especially the current economic environment. Might either evaluate the Comp structure or expectations with experience level

Senior Product Designer

Forgot to mention... I understand that one bad experience would not justify the model.

But how would I make sure that if that person is actually striving to get sales?

Kosta_Konfucius

Politicker

Sales Rep

Comparing a sales person to the founder due to no guarantee is the wrong mindset, because why would a sales person want to take on the same risk as the founder but not the benefits if the company is a success?

If the comp plan is not the best dont expect the best candidates

Senior Product Designer

Then how will that work for a founder when there is no guarantee.

I am not a salesperson but I think If I happen to be, high commission job would be fair because I would guarantee results.

I hired a local few years experienced salesperson for 3 months and I got no results.

CRAG112

Valued Contributor

Account Executive

You cannot guarantee results because you have zero proof of your process or business model.

You say you hired an experienced sales person and it failed, but you can’t sell water to the ocean.

RandyLahey

Politicker

Account Executive

Dude. Stop.

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CPTAmerica

Opinionated

President/CRO

Never take 100% commission role unless you’re getting significant equity!

Maximas

Tycoon

Senior Sales Executive

Sales Partner.. You mean just hiring a salesperson right..?

-2

Senior Product Designer

Technically not hiring but partnering because no base salary is included.
Ideally that person is responsible to generate sales.
From lead generation to prospecting and closing.

Is it fair expectation?

CRAG112

Valued Contributor

Account Executive

No that is hiring.

seriously. How did they not ban you by now?

go learn how to sell and prove your product market fit or find a new hobby.

oldcloser

Arsonist

💀

Left handed recruitment ad.

Senior Product Designer

Its not an ad sir. I am just trying to have a perspective of salespersons community on having a commission-only salespersons on the team.

oldcloser

Arsonist

💀

You want to hire a commission only salesperson, be prepared to offer equity and a c-suite title. But post the ad on a recruitment site, please.

detectivegibbles

Politicker

Sales Director

Probably not the best platform to find customers...

Use the war room asking for help in specific areas of sales. Plain and simple.

Diablo

Politicker

-1

Sr. AE

-2

Senior Product Designer

Ideally that person is responsible to generate sales.
From lead generation to prospecting and closing.

Is it fair expectation?

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