Would love to know how people perceive this quote.
Thoughts on this from people past their 20s?
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Dude is a tool with <2 years of work experience.
Not having work-life balance in your 20s is an easy way to guarantee waking up at 45 hating your life post divorce.
Fair
Excuse me sir. Have you ever heard of mental health? Burn out? See the academy article I wrote about it k thx bye.
Those take priority, always and forever. My response was in regards to bandwidth in general.
Hell yeah I wish I would have taken more time in my 20's to learn/study shit I actually cared about when I didn't have a wife and kid.
Hell yeah I wish I would have taken more time in my 20's to learn/study shit I actually cared about when I didn't have a wife and kid.
As someone in their 20s, I somewhat agree. Totally depends on the definition of "balance" and "mediocre". It is a time in your life where you still don't have much responsibility so you can fully commit to your career.
I looked this guy up, he worked at Goldman for a year so I assume that's what he was told. But now his title "Builder" for a company called Meow.
You can make a ton of assumptions that this person got burned the fuck out at Goldman for only being there for a year.
But I have to assume his post is click bate and it worked on me
I looked this guy up, he worked at Goldman for a year so I assume that's what he was told. But now his title "Builder" for a company called Meow.
You can make a ton of assumptions that this person got burned the fuck out at Goldman for only being there for a year.
But I have to assume his post is click bate and it worked on me
for sure total click bait. and FOR SURE got burnt out at Goldman. there are SO many stories of those employees getting burnt out and working insane hours
Work life balance is just like beauty - it is completely within the eye of the beholder.
This dudebroโs comment is completely lame and just a sad attempt for internet points. WLB is something you can create regardless of how busy you are. For example, I am always โon,โ meaning Iโll take a call/answer emails on the weekend or during evenings, but I also will take a 2 hour lunch with a buddy on a Tuesday, or sleep until 10am if my morning is clear on a given day. You make of it what you can.
Working 12 hour days with the production of someone working 8 isnโt a badge of honor, itโs an indicator of poor time management and below average sales skills.
This dudebroโs comment is completely lame and just a sad attempt for internet points. WLB is something you can create regardless of how busy you are. For example, I am always โon,โ meaning Iโll take a call/answer emails on the weekend or during evenings, but I also will take a 2 hour lunch with a buddy on a Tuesday, or sleep until 10am if my morning is clear on a given day. You make of it what you can.
Working 12 hour days with the production of someone working 8 isnโt a badge of honor, itโs an indicator of poor time management and below average sales skills.
Early 30's here and had our first kid who turns 2 this year. Married since I was 27.
I agree with the post. I've got a burning entrepreneurial itch that's kicked in the last 2-3 years and it is HARD as fuck to find the time to sit down without distraction to build the business I want to build.
In your 30's, post kid/marriage, that free time is hard to find. It's either 4-5am before the kid gets up or 8pm - midnight after the kid goes to bed.
I won't compromise the quality of my family time. That's a non-negotiable for me.
Looking back at my 20's, man I wasted so much time on dumb shit that could have been spent building something that's worth a ton more today.
I agree with the post. I've got a burning entrepreneurial itch that's kicked in the last 2-3 years and it is HARD as fuck to find the time to sit down without distraction to build the business I want to build.
In your 30's, post kid/marriage, that free time is hard to find. It's either 4-5am before the kid gets up or 8pm - midnight after the kid goes to bed.
I won't compromise the quality of my family time. That's a non-negotiable for me.
Looking back at my 20's, man I wasted so much time on dumb shit that could have been spent building something that's worth a ton more today.
I am trying to do both, and it isnโt easy. Family plus normal job plus start up does not really equal a good time. If I did it 10 years ago, I would be set by now.
Definitely tough. Wishing you luck.
32 here.
Chris is wrong IMO.
The days of killing yourself at work for a small chance of appreciation and a smaller chance of a promotion are long gone.
Chris also goes into the local pharmacy stores and asks for the XL condoms knowing full well they are too large.
Chris is wrong IMO.
The days of killing yourself at work for a small chance of appreciation and a smaller chance of a promotion are long gone.
Chris also goes into the local pharmacy stores and asks for the XL condoms knowing full well they are too large.
life is all about balance. This guy is a dumbass
Look, not all of us are out here trying to live by the grindset and start our own business. More power to the folks who find that as their calling, but it ain't for me. I tried running my own company in my early twenties and it burnt out for a myriad of reasons. It's not my thing. I'm perfectly content just working and earning a comfortable amount of money.
My main goal is to provide comfort and stability for my wife and children. I do not need or want to build an empire. Stretch goal is having a nice vacation home at some point. Late twenties now and I think I can get there by my mid thirties.
My main goal is to provide comfort and stability for my wife and children. I do not need or want to build an empire. Stretch goal is having a nice vacation home at some point. Late twenties now and I think I can get there by my mid thirties.
I think this is more of an extreme way to view this.
But i DO believe that if you focus your 20s on LEARNING and developing key skills and experiences and heavily invest in your career it will totally pay off for you.
"20s are for learning, 30s are for earning" if what i believe.
but i also dont think that you have to work 100 hours per week for 10 years just to have a great career.
But i DO believe that if you focus your 20s on LEARNING and developing key skills and experiences and heavily invest in your career it will totally pay off for you.
"20s are for learning, 30s are for earning" if what i believe.
but i also dont think that you have to work 100 hours per week for 10 years just to have a great career.
Heโs not wrong. But neither is he right. You need to be smart on where you apply your efforts and time. Some of my late nights and weekends were obviously a waste of time. But some werenโt.
But Putting time into work just to say you did or because you can, is definitely a waste.
But Putting time into work just to say you did or because you can, is definitely a waste.
100%. If your efforts are being poured into what you desire and you're not sacrificing shit (mental health, family, etc), that's more so how I read the post.
The War Room is on fire today. I love it.
The War Room is on fire today. I love it.
Great answer, thanks+
Lack of work-life balance in your 20s can create toxic habits that take years and years to unlearn
I no like you
Depends on what he means by "work-life balance". If you have someone in their 20s who focuses on fun only, such as going from party to party on weekends, then that's not balanced. If instead you are realizing that you work to live rather than live to work, that's balance in my mind.
Honing your sales skills makes you better at your work, therefore more efficient and able to enjoy still more of life.
Honing your sales skills makes you better at your work, therefore more efficient and able to enjoy still more of life.
Depends. I put in the effort and learn for me so that one day I won't need to be in sales. My motivation to be in sales is to hopefully/eventually get out of sales, ironically enough.
I think there is an inherent lack of WL balance, but that just comes with the territory. There will always be trade-offs, but I refuse to put my health and personal life behind me for being in sales.
The more you hone in on your sales skills, the more you're like a free agent imo. If you're boss is like the boomer who's LI post this is and you're legit in sales, you can tell him to go find a soul and find another role. It's a means to an end and it's never going to be easy, but if you plan well and have an exit strategy, it can be very fruitful imo.
I think there is an inherent lack of WL balance, but that just comes with the territory. There will always be trade-offs, but I refuse to put my health and personal life behind me for being in sales.
The more you hone in on your sales skills, the more you're like a free agent imo. If you're boss is like the boomer who's LI post this is and you're legit in sales, you can tell him to go find a soul and find another role. It's a means to an end and it's never going to be easy, but if you plan well and have an exit strategy, it can be very fruitful imo.
This is his linkedin lol.
"I went to yale and worked at GS".
fucking tool
"I went to yale and worked at GS".
fucking tool
That being said - I do work a lot in my 20's cause I can afford it. I like to work, whether it's for personal projects, work, or investments.
Figured I only have this time in my 20s until I have no commitments.
Figured I only have this time in my 20s until I have no commitments.
what an idiot.
It all depends.
Burn out and obsess over work and you might drift away from your friends and family. Further, if you are working hard and not smart you might actually not be helping your company as much as you might think you are. This is SUPER common with people like this guy who lack the years of experience to know better.
That said, if you coast in your job, especially when you are young, it will lead to mediocre outcomes and you develop poor habits.
IDK this all seems pretty obvious to me
Burn out and obsess over work and you might drift away from your friends and family. Further, if you are working hard and not smart you might actually not be helping your company as much as you might think you are. This is SUPER common with people like this guy who lack the years of experience to know better.
That said, if you coast in your job, especially when you are young, it will lead to mediocre outcomes and you develop poor habits.
IDK this all seems pretty obvious to me
I do what I need to keep on top of the job. Some days are more time vacuums than others. Each person has to decide when is it enough. My thing is I will do the extra time when needed just not all the time.
It's an interesting dilemma. In some ways, I feel like you're never done. Sales is, to an extent, always about pushing forward, ever forward. But, I also feel like you must take breaks, or you'll go crazy. Sales is what I do in my full-time career, and I just got a promotion with a new title and a bump in pay. I'm also going to get a nice bonus with my check this week, so I'm proud of that and all of the progress I've made.
At the same time, I'm building a part-time business so I can build a lifestyle where I don't have to work if I don't want to, and I can take weeks or months off with no one to answer to but myself. I feel like, if you don't ultimately build something like that, the stress and burnout of a corporate career could break you, and there's a reason so many people burn out. Balance matters, but there is a time to not let up and keep pushing, so I think it depends. There are seasons in life for everything, so I don't think there's an easy answer here.
At the same time, I'm building a part-time business so I can build a lifestyle where I don't have to work if I don't want to, and I can take weeks or months off with no one to answer to but myself. I feel like, if you don't ultimately build something like that, the stress and burnout of a corporate career could break you, and there's a reason so many people burn out. Balance matters, but there is a time to not let up and keep pushing, so I think it depends. There are seasons in life for everything, so I don't think there's an easy answer here.
If you're in sales and want "work life balance"... you're in the wrong profession.
Go work in marketing or HR.
Salespeople who want to be successful early in their careers eat, breathe, live sales. They are obsessed with it.
Go work in marketing or HR.
Salespeople who want to be successful early in their careers eat, breathe, live sales. They are obsessed with it.
The more you post here the more I realize how annoying you are...
Dude. The new generation of savages have lives outside of their funnel. They want to close business so they can travel, get to the mountains, do shit that gives them purpose and personality.
Making a bag of popcorn for the replies on this comment.
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That puts me out, then. I didnโt even find sales until my late 20s. Been having a (mostly) great career and (thoroughly) wonderful life ever since.
It can be done.
It can be done.
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