Thoughts on how to give the 411 it my manager and CEO? BDE energy?

TLDR: Thoughts on how to give the 411 it to my manager and CEO


So the new job is going good, got my first few meetings in the bag, set up the shit, got some templates, sequences going great. But now I need to channel that BDE to my CEO and Sales MGR both of whom have done nothing but try to cock block this massive cock.


The only thing I'm worried about is damaging their Egos, possibly being let go, (on an at will contract w/ no 3 month Pip shit) ((but even then not realy worried because BDE can land another job ASAP ie. I never burn bridges **real bridges not that toxic shit**


Essentially both of them are disagreeing with each other, then pinning it on me, telling me to pitch this way, prospect that way, done do this, do that. So I humored them (which I should have never) It flunked. (obviously they didn't bring me on for nothing) So I went back to being myself, and generated meetings, interest, followups, etc. essentially it started clicking.


But the CEO is like ' i DETEST this method ' and the sales coach is like "yeah that's great and all but in theory this is why this doesn't work ' but im here like:......but it does work... ya goons.


So now I'm about to schedule a call with the CEO and Sales Coach for monday morning and be like look.


'I know you hired me for a reason, I'm not the one to usually take orders, but I humored it because I was ramping and figured I had something to learn from you both. but after an unsuccessful first few days using your methods, hangups, unsubscribes, GTFO's, hard no's, I decided it wasn't in the best interest of either my performance, the companys image, or the companies future, So I tried it out the way I know best, my way, the way both of you detest. And it's been working. So I wanted to hold this meeting to address this issue, because if I can't be given the autonomy to drive results then there will be much confusion as to why there is no traction.'


Thoughts? I'm looking at you @funcoupons I just read your BDE post and was turned on in the worst way.

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SlinginSoftware
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“I’m not the one to usually take orders, but I humored it” - if a BDR from my Pod opened with this during a meeting, the rest of the conversation would not go well…


You gotta soften this up. I don’t intend for this to sound harsh, but from some of your past posts here, there sounds like there have been personality conflicts with leadership that have lead to several short stints in a row. I’m all about being candid with leadership about areas where we could improve, but this is a much different approach then telling them that you “humored them and it flunked”.


I know you’ve had a few bad sales experiences and we don’t want to see that happen here. We’re all cheering for you and want to see you succeed, but that’s not going to happen if you’re fired a month in for telling your senior leadership that they’re idiots.


Come up with a second draft… use things like “I’m committed to this organization”, “I know what kind of potential we have here” & “let’s all get rich AF”
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The father I never had. thankyou
UrAssIsSaaS
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This is really good advice. If I recall you started at this company like a month ago with about 100 titles and responsibilities but actually youre a contract worker there? 

I think in premise you are correct but you need to work on delivery. If you said that to me id fire you about 38 seconds (even if youre right) purely because I know you will be a pain in the ass to work with for the coming months and years.

Come and this very non emotional and facts based, show them why your methods are successful and why their recommendations have not worked and go from there. 
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Was able to take both of your advices and smooth it off really nicely and get more autonomy to do my thing! Thanks fam
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Just a little complan change
TennisandSales
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get after it! if you tried their way and it didnt work and your way does work......unless your doing some real sleezy shit.....then they should be happy. 

what dont they like about your prospecting methods?
TennisandSales
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also can you record this meeting i would LOVE to see how this conversation goes hahah......i just know sales coaches and CEOs LOVE to be told their wrong 😂
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lmao, I didn't tell them they were 'wrong' I just told them I had more success doing it my way because it was more authentic/collaborative/ and permission based, that I am going to continue AB testing all methods and 'WE' will come up with the best way.
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my cold call opener thats permission based
TennisandSales
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ahhh I see. well sounds like your totally in the right so keep crushin it hopefully you can turn some heads

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3 opps booked sir
Pachacuti
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You may be right, but it’s the golden rule - they have the gold and therefore make the rules. A “come to Jesus” talk rarely works, but good luck with it.
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lmao
smlnola
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What about their way sucks? What about your way do they hate?

Sounds like you’re doing well. Also sounds like you may not give a fuck about this company. If you’re gonna go in guns a blazin, maybe try to get something lined up first. Odds are, there’s a hybrid of what they want/expect and what you’re comfortable with.
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if you know me IDGAF about much lol, but yeah I just toned it tf down and let them know after a bunch of AB/CD testing, hangups, GTFOOH, and UNSUBSCRIBES, that I'm going to continue 'refining' 'our' approach to the market by interacting with them more.
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