Getting my commissions structure formalized. Need advice as there's unrealistic demands.

So one of our reps got fucked out his commission after he resigned. This made me worried coz my target has been 5Xed, and the commission isn't that high.


Basically, I'm delivering last year's quota in a quarter now.


Now, I'm trying to make sure that I have a formal agreement with the company on my commission, coz of the recent experience with the ex-employee. In one of the terms -


  • if I resign, then the company will only pay me commission after all invoices are settled, which can take a long time. let's say 90 days.
  • in the meantime, I'm supposed to give them a cheque covering for 80% of the invoices, in the event that they don't get paid, so they can recover bad debt - LMAO ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? We're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars here. I haven't made 5% of the revenue I have generated for this company in my tenure. How am I going to write you a cheque for 80% of the pending invoices?
  • Isn't the relationship between the company and the client? Sure, it's my job to sell and make sure we're paid on time (for which I lose money if we don't get paid on time - like this is in my control. we have clauses in agreements, but don't have a legal team to enforce this). But why am I supposed to pay out of my pocket if you as a company cannot recover payments from clients?


Couple questions for you folks -


  • do you have a formal and approved commission structure?
  • i have a meeting next week - how do you suggest I make them understand my perspective?
  • what do you recommend? is this a common scenario?
  • what are your horror stories?
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braintank
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Enterprise Account Executive
I sure as hell hope you didn't sign that.

Tell them it's BS and start looking for a new job. You're working for a bunch of scummy numbskulls.
signandrecline
Catalyst
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Enterprise Sales
I didn't, and yes you're right.
CuriousFox
WR Officer
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๐ŸฆŠ
Nope. Nope. Nope.
SaaSam
Politicker
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Account Executive
That's a big enough red flag that you should have one foot out the door.
TennisandSales
Politicker
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Head Of Sales
what the fuck.

How is the second point even legal?????

you better not sign that shit.

YES you need to have a formal and approved commission structure.

I would bring up the fact that expecting YOU to pay the company is completely insane.

Lets talk about this meeting:
who set the meeting? what is the point of the meeting?
braintank
Politicker
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Enterprise Account Executive
Yeah -- they're trying to screw you. Most likely breaking the law.
signandrecline
Catalyst
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Enterprise Sales
The meeting is next week, and no I haven't signed anything yet and I don't plan to.

Like god damn, bold of you to assume that I have money that will cover 80% of those invoices (which are in a quarter million range).

Also, how as a company do you not have the legal capacity to have your clients pay you, if they don't honor the contract? I get it, I am the sales guy and I have the relationship, but they didn't sign the agreement with me as an individual. the agreement is signed with you - an entity. you, as an entity are supposed to get that money, and if you don't, then you as an entity are supposed to take legal action in order to acquire said money.

So yeah, that's what I'm planning to lead with. The way I see it, this company doesn't give a shit about sales folks. Utterly clueless about how to manage sales and scale a team, and then fuck them over with stupid shit like this.
jefe
Arsonist
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What the ACTUAL fuck!?!?

They want YOU to write THEM a cheque? In what world does that make any sense? What are they smoking/can I get some?

You definitely need a formal commission structure. True at any company, but based on what you wrote it's doubly true here.

I'd approach the conversation like discovery. Try to understand what on earth they were thinking when it comes to you writing them a cheque, and respond accordingly.

tl;dr: YIKES
signandrecline
Catalyst
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Enterprise Sales
Yeah, I'm planning to talk along the lines of -

How as a company do you not have the legal capacity to have your clients pay you, if they don't honor the contract? I get it, I am the sales guy and I have the relationship, but they didn't sign the agreement with me as an individual. the agreement is signed with you - an entity. you, as an entity are supposed to get that money, and if you don't, then you as an entity are supposed to take legal action in order to acquire said money.
jefe
Arsonist
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Simple but perfect. Godspeed

Keep us updated!
Sunbunny31
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Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
Yikes! Have they never worked with a field sales team before?
Gasty
Notable Contributor
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War Room Community Manager
NO!!!
Kosta_Konfucius
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Sales Rep
Yikes my advice is to get out but be super picky. Do the bare minimum until the huge payout happens. I potentially would give them a two weeks even when you accept a new role. Just take care of your commission and hang on as long as possible
antiASKHOLE
Tycoon
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Bravado's Resident Asshole
Yeah, I'm gone.
MR.StretchISR
Politicker
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ISR
That's a big enough red flag that you should have one foot out the door.
Mr.Floaty
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BDR
Got 4 offers in 2 weeks. Signed with one that offered 2.5x previous comp w/ solid product and market fit.
Cyberjarre
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BDR
Got 4 offers in 2 weeks. Signed with one that offered 2.5x previous comp w/ solid product and market fit.
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